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13 Investigates takes closer look at efficacy of all 3 COVID vaccines, which booster to get

EL PASO COUNTY, Colo. (KRDO) -- As more people are permitted to get their COVID-19 booster shots throughout the U.S., 13 Investigates took a closer look at the efficacy of all three COVID vaccines in Colorado.

This past week, both the FDA and CDC gave the green light for people to 'mix-and-match' their COVID-19 vaccines when they receive their booster shots.

El Paso County Health officials say they do not have a preference when it comes to the Pfizer, Moderna, or J&J, but they say Colorado state numbers may be pointing in a particular direction.

“I think that if we just looked at the raw data you would say Moderna is the most effective,” said Dr. Robin Johnson with El Paso County Health Department.

According to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment, during the week of October 3rd, unvaccinated individuals have the highest rate of infection for COVID-19.

However, among the three COVID vaccine authorized for U.S., the Moderna vaccine has the lowest rate of breakthrough cases in the state of Colorado (108.9 per 100k Moderna vaccine recipients). The Pfizer vaccine had the second-best breakthrough rate (134.8 per 100k Pfizer vaccine recipients) and then Johnson & Johnson (184.5 per 100k J&J vaccine recipients).

According to CDPHE numbers, those rankings have remained consistent since mid-July.

“At this time Moderna is certainly leading the way," said Dr. Johnson. "But Pfizer is really close behind, and there are some questions. Is that due to the 3 week vs 4 week between the first and second doses? We know that vaccine scheduling is really important.”

Regardless of which vaccine a person chooses to receive, local health officials and the CDC has the same advice. Numbers show that all three COVID vaccines authorized in the United States are highly effective when it comes to reducing the risk of severe symptoms hospitalization, and death.

El Paso County Health officials say 'mix-and-matching' the COVID-19 vaccines could provide a little more nuance for your immune system and can help when it comes to fighting the COVID virus in the future.

Health officials say whichever vaccine is the most convenient for you is the one they suggest the person gets.

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Dan Beedie

Dan is a reporter with the 13 Investigates team. Learn more about Dan here.

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  1. These relative rates are consistent with what the rest of the country is experiencing. But to those who don’t believe in the vaccines, it’s all just gibberish anyway.
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    The other thing is that I don’t know of anyone who is recommending a second dose of the Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) vaccine vs getting a booster of either the Moderna or Pfizer, even if people had an initial dose of J&J. The two mRNA vaccines have both been proven more efficacious and safe.

    1. Stat away from J&J. RealityCheck, you are the perfect example of a German citizen during Hitler’s reign.

      1. Sometimes you just don’t make any sense at all. I’m just presenting factual information, like it or not. If you think I’m wrong, then please present your evidence.

        1. Perhaps my words didn’t make sense to you. Would you like me to draw it in pictures?

          1. I know 3 people that has been admitted to the hospital due to covid. All 3 have been fully vaccinated. Now go ahead and make an excuse defending the vaccine. You’ve been proven wrong more times than proven right

          2. I know of more than 3 people who have been admitted to the hospital due to Covid, all of whom have been fully vaccinated. It’s simple math/logic that’s presumably beyond your capability. Vaccination reduces the chances of being hospitalized or dying from Covid. But there are no guarantees about any individual or groups of individuals.
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            Now I’d like to see PROOF of any instance where I have been proven wrong, other than just in your less-than-humble opinion.

    2. So looking at their study here is a flaw. People who are vaccinated and feel sick do not go and get tested. They think it is something else. People who are not vaccinated are the ones who make up most all of the people getting tested.
      Many breakthrough cases are not doc_umented, because again people who get the shot do not go and get tested when they feel ill. They as_sume it is allergies, the cold or the common flu.
      So if they did more testing of the vaccinated people when they feel ill I am confident that the numbers are very different. This is also crazy because they already know even if vaccinated you can have and transmit covid. Even if they do not feel completely sick, they go around spreading it. So there is the flaw in the “Testing” and breakthrough statistics. The margin of error when you consider these facts is huge.

      1. I’m sure you’re correct. But I don’t have any suggestions how to change that. It’s a study of the tests performed, rather than anything else, and it’s the only numbers we have. Do you have any suggestions how to obtain better numbers?

        1. As I have always said. If the whole thing was about saving lives and not about promoting the shot then all healthcare workers should be tested etc not just the unvaccinated.
          Did a bit of investigating, since my doctor quit UCHealth over their mandate I need a new doctor. So I got an idea. I called three doctors offices. Said I wasn’t feeling well, they all asked if I was vaccinated. When I said yes they offered an appointment. When I said no they said I need to go get tested first, some offered it at their facility some didn’t and referred me to Walgreens, UCHealth or other testing sites you can find on the web or call the health department.
          When after they offered me an appointment(saying I got the shot)I asked if I would be tested for covid at my appointment. All three said No, there was no reason for it because I had the shot.
          This just shows that the numbers are not the whole story and they are skewed away from breakthrough cases and to not add to vaccine hesitancy. Why not tell the whole truth? Because there is an agenda. Pfizer wants to inject every person they can because the Fed govt pays them for every shot purchased and more for the ones given. Now they are going after the kids population to get more money

          1. What you’re missing is that statistically, they’re doing the right thing. It would be a great waste of effort on the part of many people to test everyone, to try to catch a few vaccinated people who would test positive. And to what end? To “correct” numbers that probably show about the same trend with or without those refinements. That’s what’s known as “an@lysis paralysis”.

          2. VIral Thoughts:

            I am shocked and sooo angry about your post- with what you did and your results.
            I know what it implies.
            Just what it says in the Bible:
            “Those without the mark will unable to sell or purchase goods”

        2. I DON’T BELIEVE YOU EITHER RC.

          you are too argumentative, don’t back your”facts” up with a good source, and roundly condemn anyone who doesn’t think like you. You’re a COVID BIGOT
          Here are some FACTS about breakthrough covid and note the c does not track any cases that do not result in death or hospitalization. SOOOO how many positive shedding breakthrough cases are REALLY out there, Just in recorded data by the CDC it’s THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS. And that is just the ones who get hospitalized or die.

          https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-had-a-breakthrough-case-of-covid-19-its-difficult-to-know/

    3. and that is what you call flip-flopping.
      like Fraudchi-
      MASKS ON! then
      MASKS OFF!
      then uhhhhh we aren’t really sure.

  2. Natural immunity after having the wuhan flu beats everyone of these shots. That’s never talked about by the “experts.”

      1. No one at the CDC is selling anything, It’s the likes of quacks frequently publicized by richierich here who are trying to make money by selling worthless cures.

          1. You mean YOU don’t believe me. Many experts believe my information, and I’d rather be judged by them than by one or two arrogant know-nothings.

        1. The CDC is funding all the advertisements for the shot. If they are not selling anything then they are paying for a heck of a lot of advertising.

          1. The explanation is simple. It’s part of their job to publicize things for the good of our citizens.

    1. People relying on “natural immunity” after being infected with Covid are 2.34 times more likely to be re-infected than people who are vaccinated after being infected. That has been studied and the results have been published by the CDC. Just because you don’t understand that doesn’t change the facts.

      1. I already showed you how that study was flawed. It was a bunk study that tested for antibodies and @ssumed re-infection was the default result vs sustained antibodies from a previous infection not re-infection. So if the antibodies were above a certain level they said it was because of an re-infection and not from the original infection. Was also based on a very limited group of people and through some reporting not an actual study.

        1. Antibody tests only determine if a person has been either infected or immunized. They are not used to determine if a person is currently infected, which is done by testing for the presence of the virus itself. The statistics were based on people known to be re-infected, after previously being cleared. Antibody levels were presumably part of the tests because that’s an indication of the degree of protection a person has. Did that clear things up a bit?

      2. If the vaccine does not protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated, and all the unvaccinated get vaccinated, who will protect the vaccinated from the vaccinated.

        1. The vaccine protected vaccinated people from any sources of the virus, which is still around. The protection is just not 100% as you well know.
          Your logic is as flawed as ever because you can only understand black/white situations (binary logic), and that’s not how the real world works.

      3. And guess what! The CDC has just made another great announcement this morning about the effectiveness of vaccines vs. natural immunity. I don’t know yet whether this is another study supporting the fact, or whether the CDC is just trying to get the word out to people who refuse to listen. But the fact haven’t changed.

        1. And this is apparently a new study that’s showing that vaccinated people are up to 5 TIMES better protected than unvaccinated people who have been previously infected.
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          And vaccination has none of the common, longer-term side effects of Covid, such as brain fog, which is apparently still affecting some people in this forum.

  3. Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
    Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight

    If the shoe fits Check!

      1. Matthew 7:1-3 King James Version

        Judge not, that ye be not judged. … For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

  4. Does this remind any of you of a certain poster? Just sayin…there are a few clues!

    Instead of facing reality, the delusional person would rather live in their world of make-believe. But in order to keep faking reality, they’ll have to make sure that everyone else around them also pretends to live in their imaginary world.

    In simpler words, the delusional person rejects reality. And in this rejection of reality, others have to play along with how they view the world, otherwise, their world will not make sense to them. It’s why the delusional person will get angry when they face someone who doesn’t conform to their world view

    1. Reality is a blue party man through and through. If it fits the blue agenda that is absolute truth to him despite any other evidence to the contrary. Just like everything Trump did was bad and when Biden does the same thing it is now all the sudden ok, justified or not his fault.
      This is why the two party system fails the betterment of the American people. This is why I am one of the most despised groups in American right now. I am an independent and do not follow any party.

      1. If you believe that, then you’re delusional. This has nothing to do with politics, but the facts of the way viral infections are transmitted, are fought, and are prevented, to the extent possible.
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        I’ve been an Independent ever since Trump showed up and wooed the Republican party into stupidity. I’ve yet to see President Biden lying like Trump did throughout his presidency, and I’ve yet to see President Biden fulfil all his campaign promises, like Trump never did.
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        And I agree that the two-party system is failing the American people.

    2. I’ve seen you reject reality so many times it’s not funny. Where does that leave you?

  5. Looks like we struck a nerve…all your defense mechanisms just went haywire! And this leaves me right where I want to be Check…right in the midst of real reality. Thanks for asking!

  6. Oh…and just a wee bit delusional if you really believe what you said about Biden. Nicely done Check!

    1. So tell me what part of what I said about President Biden is not accurate. You just keep making blanket statements with no clarity, so I’m really curious if you ever have anything constructive to say.

      1. You are the ONLY one who makes comments about my “constructive or non-constructive” comments. At least you are curious…that’s special. And when you speak of clarity…I know I have struck a nerve…Mr. doctor, lawyer, preacher, teacher, expert in all things,
        professor, I could go on…I think I have made a point of clarity. Great seeing you here Check!

        1. You’re just trying to confuse the issue because you have no real answers to any of my questions.

          1. No one has any real answers to your questions or comments Check. It’s all the same “you are correct and nobody else is correct”. Your rhetoric is the same day after day after day after day. I…on the hand have truth to offer and light to those who understand. You however are shrouded in darkness and darkness does not understand the light. I know how to respond to you Check. Over time you have given yourself away…it’s a sad existence. I do however respect your tenacity.

          2. If you can’t provide any evidence of your accusations, that’s proof enough. I’ve provided proof of your ignorance several times by showing that your promotions of “cures” are all to known quacks, and you’ve finally stopped posting them, because you know I’m right, and you’re wrong. So just stop posting false information and I’ll be happy that you’re not leading others astray with known disinformation.
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            I’m not the only one who’s correct. The majority of people here are intelligent and understand the issues. It’s only a few people like yourself who choose to remain ignorant of the facts.

  7. Check…Check…Check…I know how to respond to you…get it? All you have to say is your opinion which does not make it right or wrong just makes it your opinion. Simple

    1. My “opinions” are fact based, meaning they are not just opinions. Unlike your opinions, which are based mostly on disinformation and hence tend to be fact-free.
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      Now go back to your little office and string together some more words to make additional meaningless predictions.

  8. So…the only way to post my response to you Check and Fcn2.0 is Binary…KRDO doesn’t like God.
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    I checked the wording…maybe you both can find some “bad” words in this…I could not.

    1. Where is the judgement? If as Check says…please provide such as:
      Context
      History
      Culture
      Geography
      Language
      This way to study and understand Biblical Scriptures may help you, me and Check.So in closing:
      Jesus requires true followers to apply His teachings first to themselves and then to others. When God reveals His truth to us, whether in Scripture or in some other way, our immediate response must be to say, How does this apply to me? How do I appropriate this truth in my own life? In following Jesus command to judge not, that you be not judged (Matthew 7:1, NKJV), we avoid drawing conclusions that are superficial, proud, hypocritical, or self-righteous.
      Ba lls in your court now.

        1. And how does this apply to non-Christians? Or are you arrogant enough to believe that yours is the only one true religion? You need to expand your mind to understand other religions, looking for the commonalities rather than the differences. Those facts may also surprise you.

  9. Simple Check…it doesn’t apply to non-believers. You can’t understand…no worries. Believe me…my knowledge of other religions allows me to make my point. I do not belong to a “religion”…mine is personal relationship based. So…you just go about your daily business and continue in your vain and I will continue in mine.

    1. “So…you just go about your daily business and continue in your vain (sic) and I will continue in mine.”
      .
      Your spelling matches your logic. Or is it that the word you prefer reflects your arrogance?

      1. Wow…getting to the drivel now are you Check? If spell check is all you have keep em coming. Petty comment…did I see some projection there? I believe I did!

          1. You have learned nothing, and probably never will as long as you maintain your arrogance.

  10. What is this arrogance you speak of Check? Pot meet kettle! And oh…I have learned so much about you so thank you!

    1. Your arrogance is demonstrated by the way you constantly display an offensive air of superiority, especially when you’ve already been proven wrong.
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      If you have learned anything about me, it’s that I tell the facts, whether you like them or not. If you haven’t learned that, then you haven’t learned anything about me, which is what I suspect.

  11. Really getting defensive aren’t we Check? And facts? Your facts maybe and who is to say they are wrong or right or mine are wrong or right? Let’s just see what happens and put ourselves in the wait and see mode. Every time I come to this forum I learn something new about you and each day it just keeps getting better!

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